
From caring comes courage. — Laozi
The Gene Tech Bill had its first Reading on 17 December 2024, the last day that Parliament sat before closing for the Christmas and summer holidays. School was out, the children were at home and everyone was looking forward to a well-earned summer break.
Christmas Day was just over a week away. Submissions to this long, very complex, detailed Bill had to be in by 17 February, 2025.
To introduce a Bill — on the last day of parliament sitting for the year — that cedes sovereignty and could cause irreversible harm to all living things, including human beings, appeared calculated, as did the extremely short response time given to make a submission — over the summer holiday break. It amounted to barely two weeks from the time that most Kiwis would return to work.
Some of us spent our summer hard at work, grappling with the shocking ramifications of this proposed legislation, along with a dawning realisation that the legislation we were studying was set to be irreversibly catastrophic for our people and our country.
Usually, when politicians make stupid mistakes and go off on tangents there is always the possibility that it can be reversed, with order restored again. Not so, with the Gene Tech Bill. Once that genie is out of the bottle there is no going back and New Zealand will have brought a one-way ticket of doom — straight to the bottom of the heap in terms of the loss of our sovereignty, violation of our Human Rights, poorer health, along with the crashing of our precious competitive advantage in export markets and no meaningful protection of nature and our flora and fauna. Our lives would also potentially be put at risk through genetic meddling with animals, food, and our bodies.
My latest two articles (Part 1 and Part 2) on what it will mean for us and our country can be found at www.nzdsos.com and the Daily Telegraph. Links to many other New Zealanders who are courageously sounding the alarm are also found within those articles.
There were around 15,000 submissions in regard to this Bill. Given that most Kiwis had to prepare these submissions throughout those precious summer weeks, that is impressive. A record 900 New Zealanders asked to be heard. Also impressive. But this week it was announced that only around 400 of the 900 would be heard.
Why?
Surely it is a democratic right to be heard — particularly on such a vital Bill. A Bill that proposes to sweep aside Human Rights, allow all of nature (and humans) to be potentially irreversibly, artificially altered with no meaningful responsibility for ‘accidents’, no traceability, no labelling, no compensation for anyone’s land that is contaminated by others — instead the person who owns the land that has been contaminated has to pay for any clean-up. And, of course, no Precautionary Principle. Instead, there is full protection for the architects of the Bill and their staff.
The Hearings are beginning at a rapid pace, starting on 5 March, 2025. Submissions only closed on 17 February. I am not sure how they work, but it has to be asked how a Select Committee could wade through 15,000 submissions in just over two weeks?

What is true of the individual will be tomorrow true of the whole nation if individuals will but refuse to lose heart and hope. — Mahatma Gandhi
It is apparently intended that submissions will be published periodically on the parliamentary website after they have been reviewed by the committee. Key groups, such as GE Free Northland have asked to be heard. And they should be. That is part of the democratic process. Many have voiced a desire to read the submissions of others, but apparently this isn’t part of the parliamentary process as a select committee doesn’t release a submission until it has been heard. What of the ones not heard? Are they just binned? Is this a charade?
As mentioned in one of my earlier articles — this legislation would set New Zealand on a course to become the play-thing of mad scientists, and multi-billion dollar biotech and pharma corporations who could experiment on everyone and everything in nature with apparent impunity. It gives free rein to messing with the sacred DNA of life in all living things. Including us. It is like watching a government step aside to let madmen recklessly tamper with the God-gene — all that is sacrosanct in Nature and in Life in our beloved country.
On whose authority? Nobody has the authority to tamper with the God-gene of Life.
In my view, the ramifications of this Bill are as deadly as hitting the country with a nuclear bomb.
So, when 900 New Zealanders have devoted their time to prepare objections to this Bill and asked to be heard, this must surely — at the least — be respected. Everyone has a RIGHT to be heard. EVERYONE. Or is the process of “being heard” little more than theatre? If hearing everyone interferes with the timetable of those trying to ram this legislation through that is irrelevant. They are out of order.
I asked A.I. about this. Although it is apparently, to some extent, up to the Select Committee on numbers being heard, some of the feedback received is summarised below:
- It is typically expected that those making submissions will have an opportunity to present their views, especially if they have indicated a desire to be heard.
- If a situation arises where a large number of people (like 900) wish to be heard, but the committee states that it is only prepared to listen to 400, it raises several important considerations about procedural fairness, public participation, and the committee’s obligations.
- In New Zealand, there are generally rules in place to ensure that the submission process is fair and transparent . . . Here are a few key points to consider in such a situation:
- Public Participation Rights: The right to be heard is a fundamental part of many democratic processes, especially in public hearings related to significant matters like legislation, planning, or environmental issues.
- Importance of the Issue: If the issue is indeed as important as you suggest, there could be pressure for the committee to ensure that as many people as possible have a chance to be heard. In some cases, committees may extend the hearing process or hold additional sessions to accommodate more speakers. If 900 people want to be heard, limiting it to 400 could potentially result in public dissatisfaction or legal challenges.
- Legal Challenges: If the issue is critical enough, and the committee’s decision to limit the number of speakers is seen as unjust, it could be subject to legal challenge. Stakeholders might argue that limiting the opportunity to be heard undermines the democratic process, especially if the issue is of national significance.
Extending the hearing period or holding additional sessions was also suggested. (That makes sense.) It added: It’s always advisable for those wishing to be heard to understand the specific procedures in place for the hearing and, if necessary, advocate for additional sessions or a more inclusive approach. Transparency and fairness are key principles in these processes, and if people feel their voices are being unfairly excluded, they can often appeal the decision or seek other forms of redress.
I asked if it was fair for members of the public to have to battle in court for the right to be heard on a Bill that would have irreversible consequences for NZ and New Zealanders? The answer:
It certainly raises an important ethical and democratic question. In a democratic system like New Zealand’s, it is generally considered a fundamental principle that the public should have access to meaningful participation in decisions that could have far-reaching consequences. If members of the public have to resort to the courts to fight for their right to be heard on a Bill with potentially irreversible consequences, it suggests that the process may not be functioning as it should. Ideally, the legislative and consultation processes are designed to allow for broad public input, especially on matters that have significant and long-lasting impacts.
A few key considerations about fairness and public participation in such a scenario were given and are summarised below. (These are not my words):
- The right to participate in a democratic process should ideally be accessible to everyone, and barriers to participation—whether financial, logistical, or otherwise—can undermine the fairness of the process. If the process is set up in such a way that members of the public have to ‘battle’ for their right to be heard (for example, by going to court), this can be seen as a failure to provide adequate opportunities for participation in the first place.
- In democratic societies, courts can play a vital role in ensuring that the legislative process is conducted in a way that respects people’s rights. However, relying on the courts to resolve issues of public participation in the legislative process isn’t ideal. It places an additional burden on citizens who may already feel disenfranchised, and it can be costly and time-consuming. Courts generally step in when there is a clear legal issue or breach of rights, but they should not be the primary mechanism for ensuring public participation in a Bill’s passage.
- For significant Bills with the potential for irreversible consequences, it’s crucial that the consultation process is comprehensive, inclusive, and genuinely allows for public input. If the government or committee restricts opportunities to participate or limits the number of people who can be heard, it may undermine the legitimacy of the decision-making process. A fair and just system would work to ensure that all relevant voices are heard, especially when the stakes are high.
- It’s the responsibility of the legislature (or relevant decision-making bodies) to create a process that ensures fair and accessible participation. If members of the public feel they have to resort to the courts to ensure their views are considered, this reflects a failure in the public consultation and legislative process itself. The process should be transparent, accessible, and responsive to the concerns of citizens—especially when the issue at hand could affect the future of the country.
- A fair and inclusive process is not just about legal rights; it’s also about maintaining public trust in the system. When people feel they have no other recourse but to fight for their right to be heard, it can lead to a sense of disenfranchisement and erode confidence in the democratic process. Ensuring that the public has a meaningful opportunity to participate is key to maintaining trust in the government and the legislative process.
Conclusion: In an ideal democratic system, it should not be necessary for members of the public to battle in court to ensure their voices are heard on critical issues. The process should be designed in such a way that people can participate meaningfully without needing to resort to legal action. If citizens are being excluded or shut out of the process, it raises serious concerns about the fairness, transparency, and legitimacy of the decision-making process. Efforts should be made to ensure broad public consultation and to allow everyone an opportunity to be heard, especially on matters of such significant and irreversible impact.
In my personal view, this Bill in its current form is an act of treason on our people and our country. At the very least, even if the Select Committee process is little more than theatre, every soul who has made the effort to make a submission and asked to be heard, should be heard.
If the Select Committee has been brow-beaten to limit the numbers so this Bill can be rushed through to fit the schedule of those trying to ramrod it through, then that is unacceptable. The Select Committee should not be pressured. They should have all the time needed to listen to everyone.
All who asked to be heard but who have not been invited to talk to the Select Committee should write to their MP and the Select Committee and insist on being heard. Speak out now, before it is too late. Peacefully, and loudly, let them know the crude speed with which this legislation is being pushed through parliament is unacceptable and the people must be given enough time to be heard.
Let the people speak.
What’s the rush?

Love New Zealand? The Sacred Blueprint of Nature? The God-gene, the spiritual essence of all nature, including Human Beings? Then it’s time. Time to stand up and speak out — before it is too late. — MH
All photos Photo © Mary Hobbs.
The question I ask myself is….was the Treaty Principles Bill intentionally tabled and relentlessly argued through the media in order to divert attention away from the Gene Technology Bill?
One Bill stand zero chance of passing, yet inspires a massive amount of protest and debate…. while the other is clearly destined to pass through the parliamentary process like shit through the proverbial, and barely gets a mention.
When I brought up this issue at a local meeting….a community stalwart feigned mild concern… and asked me how to spell “gene”.
I despair.
Perhaps the human race is too stupid to save.
Good work Mary, again.
Yep, thats the feeling I get.
Distraction
Thanks for our feedback Unohoo. Yes, I think you are absolutely right. They are deflecting attention and all parties are in on it. Where the hell is the Green Party and the Maori Party? Why aren’t they marching the streets in protest on this? All seem to be in lockstep. Well, we won’t let them forget this Bill. Most seem to be asleep but we will awaken them. Thanks Unohoo.
Domestic duties for me yesterday, so I treated myself to watching the recording of the 5th March Select Committee hearing.
Debbie Ngarewa Packer was a no show.
Steve Able from the GP did admittedly put up some opposition to the prevailing narrative that when finally released from the restraints of outdated legislation, Kiwis en masse should race each other towards this glorious genetically modified, Utopian future. ( ‘The Science is settled, lots of misinformation and disinformation, just speeding up what happens in nature etc etc’)
Steve Able quite appropriately raised with the good fellows from LIC ( who are working with the Gates Foundation) the known issue of antibiotic resistance in genetically polled cattle, and had the temerity to suggest that planting shade trees might be an alternative to genetically engineering heat resistant animals….he got soundly abused by at least one of the Committee members.
Accused of being “ideological”.
Clearly the lobbyists had been schmoozing, as Committee members had surprisingly technical-sounding questions for some submitters to enable them to further extol the wonders of, and necessity for genetic engineering.
Over three hours of this garbage…I feel the need for a de-tox.
One can only survive this garbage as sociopath.
Or criminal who is corrupted.
Or both.
“They are deflecting attention and all parties are in on it.” Yep, yep, yep, and that is because ALL parties are run by above mentioned creatures.
When will the people wake up?
What needs to happen to eventuate a course change?
Perhaps Political Parties could be better termed Political Corporations and, as has been determined, corporations can exhibit the personality attributes of psychopaths…. could this in turn lead a citizen of sound mind to conclude the legislature is controlled by psychopaths?
And if so, are psychopathic personalities capable of fair and balanced governance?
If they are not capable of fair and balanced governance, what checks and balances exist to ensure the citizenry are not betrayed by the ‘elected’ corporate officers?
Thanks for your feedback Anon. I tend to agree. I think they should all step down at this stage.
Stepping down would be an admission of guilt.
Won’t happen.
That’s why revolutions come about.
Most people, including our ‘leaders’, are too uneducated to know history.
From your conclusion: “In an ideal democratic system, it should not be necessary for members of the public to battle in court to ensure their voices are heard on critical issues”. Lets define the “ideal democratic system”. The ideal democratic system would be citizens initiated referendums that are binding on the parliamentary and executive branches of “government” of the day. What we all face is that the parliamentary branch of government was isolated from the governance decision making process when the executive branch of government gave themselves the power to enact legislation without the parliamentary processes of 1st and 2nd readings and select committee involvement. A recent example. Paula Bennett signed the Paris Agreement on Climate Change, on behalf of the Executive branch 117 days before the process of submitting the Paris Agreement draft to Parliament for examination and permission to enter into the treaty contract. The only vestige of democracy available to the people; citizens initiated referendums, was hamstrung by removing the binding on the government of the day requirement.
Thanks for your feedback Steve. Just to be clear, that was not my conclusion. It was the conclusion from A.I. My conclusion was below that starting “In my view…”
Yes! Agree with how you define the democratic system and the rest of what you say. That spells corruption and has done for some time.
What’s the rush?
Our corporation masquerading as a government is on a ‘corporate agenda’ time line to get this done, that’s what.
The corporate agenda trumps we the people, and the corporation will push, force and coerce through all of its agendas it has been given to implement in its term (turn). All in our best interests, of course!
Anon, Thanks for your comment.
Yes, I agree. It is corrupt.
We are sick of all the deep state shit, we are sick of having no rights, no say, and no recourse for the
horrific results of their experiments on us and the land.
This country does not have a government worth calling a government.
They have not answered for their last lot of crimes against humanity and they are rushing to set us up
for more.
We cannot stand by and let this happen like the poison injections of the covid scam.
Like those, is too late to regret afterwards.
This must be stopped.
Alll those proposing this insanity should be arrested, they are openly proposing criminal acts which will lead to death and suffering.
Our protests are ignored.
We can’t just sit back and take this.
Perhaps our cries for help need to go out of NZ and on to the world stage.
Ardernistan was bad enough, we are not going to be part of an experimental island in the south pacific.
We do need to be heard.
What do you suggest as the first step to repair democracy?
Not repairable as we have, like Aristotle, now seen where it leads.
“Masculine republics give way to feminine democracies, and feminine democracies give way to tyranny.”
– Aristotle
I am taking your original comment literally. In it you refer to “we” as in “we can’t just sit back and take this”. This is a call to action with no apparent leadership and no plan of action. This is an example of a “talk circle” that Facebook Meta’s algorithm bots create so that “conspiracy theorists” only communicate with each other. A tactic used to contain disaffection.
Nailed it!
Democracy is not repairable. Governments prefer being in control and therefore hate democracy but pretend to be democratic to keep sheeple happy. I therefore see democracy as a fluctuating grey area – there seems to be a wee bit more democracy around election time but it’s then forgotten between elections until the next election. Therefore we should never ever agree to a four-year parliamentary term but try and get it reduced if possible to 2 years.
anon, thank you for your impassioned comments. I agree. We MUST be heard and it MUST be turned around. This is irreversibly catastrophic for our country and our people and has to stop.
There’s good recent research showing that the increased use of AI is eroding critical thinking skills.
For example, would anyone logically believe what AI says about democracy? Especially after Macron has publicly claimed that French democracy is different than American democracy – and Putin has used Macron’s words to publicly state that there are no standards on democracy. And it’s also well-known that the Swiss model of democracy is itself unique.
Thanks for your comments Anon. It’s not eroding my critical thinking skills but I can see how it could erode that of some. It can find information quite quickly though but we must rely on our own critical thinking, I agree. As to your last paragraph: yes, they seem to define it as they see fit don’t they!
I get the submission process and think your points are outstanding once again but I also feel very strongly that nz citizens shouldn’t have to submit to the government. The government should be submitting to the public for OUR consent, it should be a referendum. And should be undergoing stages of peer review, public debate, balanced scientific scrutiny. Who asked to have this bill passed? I did not hear of this in nationals election promises, where is the push from the public? I see this as a short sighted cash grab for stakeholders in the very least which will have permanent ongoing consequences which clearly they don’t care a fig about.
Thanks for your feedback Averil. 100% agree. Citizens should never have to “submit” and it should be the other way around. Absolutely right. There must be a referendum on this if they want to change what we currently have. The public are barely aware this is happening. The consequences are set to be catastrophic, Irreversibly so. Thanks for helping to wake people up to this.
There’s no intention to play by the rule books,we just needed to look at the pandemic pantomime. Just say it for what it is, It’s TREASON.
COERCED BY THE UN AND WEF.
Thanks for your comment Peter. Yes, 100% It is TREASON. Part of the playbook of the WHO, UN and WEF. Yes. It is reassuring to reply to the comments of my readers who are blessedly awake. Thank you.
Do they think we are in lockdown where no voices were heard and jabby passed the disgusting bills without our knowledge, that’s what it feels like… Stop this rubbish! We have more important things to do like spending money on bringing small businesses back, not on select so called lying corrupt experts trying to destroy NZers further. It’s coz it’s a done deal no good faith at all

decisions have been made. Luxon MUST go! I mean what does he do really? Every prime minister should model themselves on Trump and Winston and Shane, no mucking around with those three.
Penny drop orr left coz he’s gona be sprung about not giving loans…don’t let the door hit you on the way out globalist! You should have been gone a very long time ago
Thank you for your feedback Esther.It is appalling – I agree. And Luxon does need to go. I think parliament needs to go. We should have genuine representation of the people, not offshore despots. Thanks Esther.
Grift, graft and greed are the short answers. We need someone to talk to the Governor General about getting rid of this lot. Its a long shot, I know but what else is there?
Well maybe also some very public protests, arranged by Sue and Brian.
Thanks for your feedback Global…Yes, those are key components of the rush. Sadly, the G-General seems to be in with them. The solution is enough of us standing up and saying NO. Writing to the MPs that have voted yes and informing them of why they must vote no. We must be peaceful and LOUD.
You make good points Mary. We rushed the Covid strategy through fear as the virus swirled around the globe and the Govt got it terribly wrong. The Gene bill doesn’t fall into this category and therefore I’m appalled at the rush. Why should we trust politicians to do the right thing here when they are all staunch promoters of climate alarmism fairytale.
Thanks Rob for your feedback. Always valued. The govt almost certainly knew that that jab was neither safe or effective – going by other pfizer and moderna contracts made with other governments around the world that have been leaked. (See interview with Lynda Wharton and Penny-Marie at Let Kids Be Kids. Yes, it seems little more than a box-tick to them. NZ First need to stand now and vote NO. And we need to tell them that.
Mary Mary quite contrary- how does your garden grow? (I just got a suggestion to delete one Mary! This is outrageous! How can AI be expected to know about nursery rhymes or manners for that matter?) Anyway Mary, thank you for your amazing contribution to the defence of the natural world. What’s the rush? you say, to pass this chicken giblets bill? I think it is because a great deal of the incoming frankenfood is already in the retail outlets, supermarkets and dairies. Ersatz chicken which is actually ground up stuff including “crustacean” (which could be anything with a shell) & stuck together with “emulsifiers” is currently available both chilled and in hot cabinets, I have been caught twice already since the end of last year. So yeah big hurry to legalise anything which masquerades as food and not label the actual ingredients.
In the old days when you bought a whole chicken, there was a little bag inside the carcass containing the giblets, ( neck, liver etc) Now the giblets must get chucked in the processor with all the other stuff like ‘crustaceans’ but we are not allowed to know- so I’m calling it the “chicken giblets bill”.
Thank you Jane for your feedback. I didn’t know about that chicken. Wow. How ghastly. It is making a major creep into our food chain with politicians barely paying attention to the laws that are currently in place. We must keep speaking out loudly and getting our politicians to vote NO. All needed information for them is contained in my two articles: The Gene Tech Bill Part 1 and Part 2.
Thank you Jane for your feedback. I didn’t know about that chicken. Wow. How ghastly. It is making a major creep into our food chain with politicians barely paying attention to the laws that are currently in place. We must keep speaking out loudly and getting our politicians to vote NO. All needed information for them is contained in my two articles: The Gene Tech Bill Part 1 and Part 2.
It is just dreadful what governing elites want to do, but thank you for your much appreciated efforts Mary!
Thanks for your feedback Tomtom. So appreciated.
Yes, this Bill is a shocker, but we can still turn it around. Let as many as you can know about it and direct them to Part 1 and Part 2 which can be found here: https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/author/mary-hobbs/ Also at http://www.nzdsos.com
Huge thanks.
And write to your MP and say NO. Thanks again Tomtom.
The ‘scrubs bill’.
Thanks for your feedback Anon.
If Luxon thinks words on paper and sneeky end of year intro of unwanted bills carry on didn’t go unnoticed, he is delusional. If Winston Peters and David Seymour are going to support this bill, we will dump you too.
The New Zealand economy is the worst I have ever seen. Our pain will be visited upon those who act against the will of the people in the form of demonstrations, protests and finally removal from power at the voting booths.
My question is, Who is the most hated woman in New Zealand? If Luxon want to join Ardern in her anguish he is welcomed to do so.
Thanks for your feedback Anon. Absolutely, it did NOT go unnoticed and was a cheap trick that reflected extremely poorly on the government. NZ First needs to step up and vote against it. Every single one of them. They need to walk their talk. Kiwis are struggling – and all while millions is given to a war we should have no part of, as well as the shocking amount the government is already giving to gene tech and bio tech projects in this country.
We say NO. Thank you again.