State-funded legacy mainstream news outfit Stuff.co.nz criticised for its reporting on a group of candidates standing for the local body elections in Northland.
The group of 8 candidates are standing under the banner of ‘SOVEREIGN.nz’.
On 18 August Stuff ran a hitpiece on SOVEREIGN.nz in an article titled ‘The Covid-19 conspiracy theorists targeting Northland’s local elections‘. It was written by senior journalist Andrea Vance.
DTNZ has received multiple reports from around the country from candidates running in the upcoming Local Body Elections who claim Stuff journalists have misrepresented their views and spread disinformation about them. It’s a salutary reminder that communications with journalists should be in writing, so there is a record of them.
DTNZ has been provided with the SOVEREIGN.nz responses to Stuff’s questions sent to them in advance for the article, allowing analysis and comparison between the SOVEREIGN.nz responses and what Stuff actually wrote.
Background
According to Alisha Riley, SOVEREIGN.nz’s Councillor candidate for the Kaikohe-Hokianga Ward, Far North District Council, on Wednesday 17 August (the day before the article was published) Vance contacted SOVEREIGN.nz via the email address on their website at 12.25pm requesting a phone interview. SOVEREIGN.nz replied saying they could do a phone interview on Monday 22nd at 2pm, however Vance said that was not possible as the article was due the following day at 5am. Vance then emailed the questions.
Given the short timeframe, only answers from Far North Mayoral candidate Joshua Riley could be provided. Joshua is the husband of Councillor candidate Alisha Riley.
COVID-19
The article’s title referred to SOVEREIGN.nz as ‘COVID-19 conspiracy theorists’, but the group doesn’t even have a COVID policy. It’s focused mainly on opposing ‘Zero-Carbon’ policies, and combating the growing influence of unelected global institutions in New Zealand’s internal affairs.
Vance also said the group were ‘espousing COVID-19 disinformation’. While some candidates may have opposed mRNA vaccination and mandates, not all of them did, and these are not issues the group is even standing on. It’s 6-point policy statement doesn’t mention the word ‘COVID-19’ once. Nor did Vance’s article provide a link to the SOVEREIGN.nz website so readers could check the group’s policies and candidate profiles for themselves.
Vance specifically asked about the group’s COVID-19 policies, and it was made clear to her that SOVEREIGN.nz had no position on the issue, yet she labelled the entire group ‘COVID-19 conspiracy theorists’:
Question [from Vance]: What is Sovereign’s position on Covid-19 vaccines, vaccine mandates and the New Zealand government’s wider response?
Answer [from Riley]: Sovereign does not have vaccine or mandate policies as this is beyond the scope of Local Government.
The name ‘SOVEREIGN.nz’
Vance wrote:
‘The Northland group, who are all standing for Far North District Council, appears influenced and shares much of the language used by a “sovereign citizens” movement from the United States. The ‘sovereigns’ consider themselves exempt from the jurisdiction of the federal government and US law and have been linked to illegal and violent activities.’
The email Q&A on this issue reads:
Question [from Vance]: Much of the language on your website appears to be influenced and aligned with the US sovereign citizens movement. Do you accept this?
Answer [from Riley]: I have never heard of that group. Our Sovereign name comes from the idea of Sovereign as a Nation, Sovereign as a People.
Given that Riley said he had never heard of the American group, and this was confirmed in Vance’s article, why were they even mentioned in the article? How could Vance honestly say that SOVEREIGN.nz ‘appeared to be influenced’ by the American group when Riley had no knowledge of them?
Alisha Riley also told DTNZ that they have been at pains to point out to Vance that their official name is specifically ‘SOVEREIGN.nz’ and that she should amend her article to reflect this, but as of today the article still refers to the group only as ‘Sovereign’.
Alisha Riley said:
‘We told Andrea [Vance] that the name of our affiliation is SOVEREIGN.nz. It is how our nomination documents show it and how we will be displayed on the ballot. She put it down as Sovereign NZ in her article. We requested correction and she changed it to Sovereign. She clearly does not want people to be able to find us to see for themselves who we are…’
Agenda 30
One of SOVEREIGN.nz’s key policies is opposing the UN’s Agenda 2030 (sometimes referred to as ‘Agenda 30’).
According to The Council of Europe:
‘The 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development was launched by a UN Summit in New York on 25-27 September 2015 and is aimed at ending poverty in all its forms. The UN 2030 Agenda envisages “a world of universal respect for human rights and human dignity, the rule of law, justice, equality and non-discrimination’.
In an effort to deflect the growing concerns some have about Agenda 30, and its quiet, undemocratic infiltration into government policy, Vance wrote:
‘Agenda 30 (and its forerunner Agenda 21) aren’t laws or treaties, and are non-binding, subject to each country’s commitment.’
For further analysis, she turned to an ‘expert’ named Stephen Judd of FACT (Fight Against Conspiracy Theories Aotearoa).
Judd, who apparently had ‘just become of aware’ of SOVEREIGN.nz, described the conspiracy theories surrounding Agenda 30 thus:
‘The conspiracy theory is essentially that shadowy forces, working through the United Nations want to reduce the human population and achieve ‘one world’ government and in some way, the UN and the forces behind that, are trying to control local government to achieve this outcome. Part of the local manifestation of this theory is that they think the significant natural areas policy and Three Waters are expressions of that conspiracy theory.’
Here is the Agenda 30 Q&A between Vance and Joshua Riley:
Question [Vance]: A key policy platform for Sovereign NZ is ‘UN Agenda 2030’. Can you please explain your position and why you believe this relates to local government?
Answer [Riley]: Our website spells this out fairly well.
UN Agenda [30] has been decided by individuals who were not elected by New Zealanders. Regardless, their policies are nearly immediately converted to New Zealand legislation. No referendums, not even a public opinion poll. Eventually we find ourselves in a land ruled by foreign agenda, to the detriment of our society.
Specifically this relates to New Zealand’s Zero Carbon policies, He Pua Pua Co-Goverance which is a result of John Key’s signing of the UN Self-Determination declaration and has brought about Three Waters, Maori Ward legislation, Tauranga’s appointed ‘Commissioners’ and various other ‘co-governance’ bodies which only segregate our once cohesive society.
Question [Vance]:. Are you aware that ‘Agenda 30’ is often falsely accused of being a conspiracy and features widely in misinformation circulating on social media?
Answer [Riley]: Agenda 2030 is a sub-goal within Agenda ‘21. UK Fires (attached) relates to goals for 2030. This report was commissioned by the UK government and its suggestions will likely be adopted. These include the total elimination of cow and sheep farming, the closing of major airports and the beginning of the end for ALL shipping by 2030. Some ‘sustainable development’ documents from the UN also question the sustainability of private land ownership.
Overall, we reject any UN Agenda, developed by un-elected foreign entities, from becoming NZ law without a referendum. This is, in essence, the idea behind sovereignty.’
It is important to understand that there are two broad categories of opposition to Agenda 30:
- The first comprise those who oppose the adoption of UN resolutions as local law because doing so is fundamentally undemocratic. Resolutions are drafted and adopted in the UN by officials who were not elected by us, are unaccountable to us, and who have civil and criminal immunity from New Zealand law. This view represents ‘common sense’, and most New Zealanders would be in this group – they want our government and parliament to determine local-based policies and law, without interference or influence from unaccountable globalist institutions. It’s a fact that the public’s lack of trust in global institutions has grown throughout the pandemic – this is a worldwide phenomenon.
- The second type of opposition is more ‘conspiratorial’. These people believe Agenda 30 has nefarious aims, such as de-population, mass sterilisation, implementation of a ‘one world government’, wealth transfer and the enslavement of humanity.
While there is ‘cross-pollination’ of ideas between the two types, it’s clear from Joshua Riley’s responses that SOVEREIGN.nz is firmly in the first category of opposition – namely that which most New Zealanders would agree with – adoption of UN resolutions is fundamentally undemocratic – it’s an issue worthy of debate.
However, Vance’s article characterised SOVEREIGN.nz as being in the ‘conspiratorial’ category, claiming the group was ‘pushing debunked claims’ about Agenda 30. The use of Judd’s pointless, tokenistic commentary is further proof of that.
The infiltration of Agenda 30 into the New Zealand system and way of life is no conspiracy theory – it’s already here. Jacinda Ardern has openly bragged about it. According to a 2020 article by former ACT Party MP Dr. Muriel Newman:
‘Last year Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern was the guest speaker at a private gathering in New York hosted by Bill and Melinda Gates. She told the audience that under her administration New Zealand had taken a lead and embedded the United Nations Agenda 2030 into our legal and regulatory framework:
“…my Government is doing something not many other countries have tried. We have incorporated the principles of the 2030 Agenda into our domestic policy-making in a way that we hope will drive system-level actions… I believe that the change in approach that we have adopted in New Zealand is needed at a global scale…”
The event was arranged by Goalkeepers, an organisation set up by the Gates Foundation in 2017 to accelerate progress towards the 17 Sustainable Development Goals of the UN’s Agenda 2030.’
In a press release a year ago, Foreign Minister Nanaia Mahuta gave an appraisal on how far New Zealand had ‘progressed’ in implementing Agenda 30, but acknowledged, ‘the Government has more work to do to better implement the Sustainable Development Goals [ie. the ’17 SGDs of Agenda 30] in a strategic and co-ordinated manner.’
In the introduction to a 2019 government report reviewing New Zealand’s progress towards the SDGs, Ardern wrote, ‘As an active member across international institutions, New Zealand is committed to the implementation of the 2030 Agenda for Sustainable Development and achievement of the 17 Sustainable Development Goals (SDGs).’
A cursory search of the websites for government departments shows that Agenda 30 ideology is fully embedded into their policy aims – for example, The Ministry of Foreign Affairs and Trade, Office of the Comptroller and Attorney General, and Landcare Research, to name a few.
SOVEREIGN.nz’s argument about Agenda 2030 is that implementation of the SDG goals, being a creation of the UN, represents an incursion on the democratic principles which underpin New Zealand’s system of government. Riley cited concrete examples of this in his response to Vance: Agenda 21 UK, He Pua Pua, and made no mention at all of the ‘de-population’ or ‘shadowy one world government’ conspiracies that Vance, backed up by Judd, accused him and the 7 other candidates of disseminating.
Voices For Freedom (VFF) and ‘COVID-19 disinformation’
Vance wrote:
‘Sovereign and VFF don’t appear to be aligned – but they do share many of the same characteristics, including spreading disinformation about Covid-19.’
As stated above, SOVEREIGN.nz clearly state that they have no COVID-19 policy, so the disinformation they are accused by Stuff of spreading does not exist.
The Q&A for this part of the article reads:
Question [Vance]: Your candidates cite conspiracy theories, disinformation and or questionable research on everything from fluoridation to Covid 19. How do you respond to this?
Answer [Riley]: We link to scientific papers showing fluoride is not without negative health consequences. My son suffered from fluorosis while drinking “safe” fluoridated water. His condition was not a conspiracy theory and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.
Can you be specific about Covid 19 “conspiracy theories”? Did Denmark, which has one of the best health reporting systems in the world, recently block vaccinations for people under 18 because of conspiracy theories or because the vaccines had a negative risk/benefit ratio? I believe we need to stop using words like conspiracy theory so loosely and do a little research ourselves. Jacinda Arden stated that vaccine passports would “keep COVID from coming into businesses in the first place” and that vaccinated people wouldn’t get sick. How many articles were written to debunk these ‘conspiracy theories’?
Vance did not specifically ask if SOVEREIGN.nz was aligned or connected to VFF. Alisha Riley confirmed to DTNZ that SOVEREIGN.nz is not affiliated with VFF – it stands solely on its own principles and policies.
Social media and internet presence
Vance wrote:
‘The Sovereign candidates have little online presence, including mainstream social media profiles, nor do they list their contact information. Riley says they were not deliberately scrubbed.’
‘Their views on vaccines overlap with “wellness” and natural health movements and concerns that either the UN or the World Economic Forum is working to deprive citizens of autonomy.’
These claims are also baseless.
SOVEREIGN.nz have a website where all 8 candidates are profiled. There’s an email address to contact the group, and an online contact form for enquiries.
At the time of Vance’s questions, the only candidate with social media accounts was Alisha Riley (Facebook and YouTube).
The remaining candidates were not users of social media, which is not unusual in this day-and-age. However, all candidates except for one, will be starting Facebook pages for their Local Government campaigns. Two have already done so since the Stuff article.
Two of the 8 expressed opposition to the mRNA mandates, and one mentioned the WEF. This diversity of views is probably an accurate reflection of New Zealand society, yet Vance inexplicably ascribed these beliefs to the whole group.
Rob Eady
Vance characterised Eady as a climate change conspiracy theorist who also held ‘anti-vax’ views.
She neglected to mention that Eady has significant expertise in this area having spent a 40+ year career as a chemist, mainly in the oil and gas industry. Eady is not alone in his views – just like with the COVID mRNA issue, there is a substantial and credible body of scientific opinion which opposes the state’s narrative of man-made climate change. As the great Canadian chemist and Nobel Prize winner John Charles Polanyi once said, ‘Science exists, moreover, only as a journey toward truth. Stifle dissent and you end that journey.’
As to Vance’s claim that Eady held ‘anti-vax’ views this is also false. Eady denounced the use of the ‘COVID mRNA experiment’, but Vance provided no evidence he opposes any other vaccine used in New Zealand. He should have been labelled ‘anti-mRNA’, rather than ‘anti-vax’, and Vance does not appear to appreciate the significant difference between the two, preferring instead to insult the highly respected Eady using the ‘anti-vax’ slur.
Conclusion
The sole aim of the Stuff article is to stifle dissent. They did this through mispresentation and disinformation. In doing so they suppressed the truth about SOVEREIGN.nz.
For this they are rewarded financially by the State through the ‘Public Interest Journalism Fund’. The notion that legacy media outlets receive money for attacking and spreading disinformation about government opponents should send a chill down the spine of every New Zealander. This unethical practice must stop, and Stuff must be made financially liable for the distress and damage they have caused. Disinformation hitpieces like this undermine our democracy.
SOVEREIGN.nz addressed this issue in a statement released shortly after Vance’s hitpiece:
‘Stuff has recently found an obsession with attacking Local Government candidates who don’t follow their narrative. Anyone who doesn’t agree with co-governance segregation or thinks mandates were a violation of the Human Bill of Rights (as confirmed by the High Court) is labeled a terrorist and Stuff troops are soon at their doorstep with the full semblance of the KGB interrogating a political enemy. Stuff have created the most obscene spectacle and molestation of what they call journalism by accusing anyone and everyone who doesn’t worship every edict that emanates from the Beehive as being a conspiracy theorist. Their Local Government political reporting is heavily financed by the Labour government. The Public Interest Journalism Fund (PIJF) creation has coincided with fully unbalanced articles, hit pieces and targeted misinformation campaigns to slander and disparage any candidate who does not conform to the narrative. The PIJF is an abhorrent subversion of free and open democracy. It has created a frenzy of news outlets clamoring to get their share of tax payer money by proposing hit pieces on government dissent. Stuff claims to defend democracy while they wield their PIJF sword against it.’
At the bottom of the Stuff article there is one final piece of blatant disinformation:
‘Our democracy is vulnerable. That’s why Stuff is so committed to fearless reporting and fact-checking on those seeking your vote in local government elections. If this story made you better informed about who is standing in your area, or how disinformation can damage our communities, please support our work today. You can contribute from just $1.’
Who does Stuff think they are kidding?
The Full transcipt
I have reproduced the Riley/Vance Q&A in full below, for the sake of completeness. The link for the Vance article is here.
Q. A key policy platform for Sovereign NZ is ‘UN Agenda 2030’. Can you please explain your position and why you believe this relates to local government?
A. Our website spells this out fairly well…
UN Agenda has been decided by individuals who were not elected by New Zealanders. Regardless, their policies are nearly immediately converted to New Zealand legislation. No referendums, not even a public opinion poll. Eventually we find ourselves in a land ruled by foreign agenda, to the detriment of our society.
Specifically this relates to New Zealand’s Zero Carbon policies, He Pua Pua Co-Goverance which is a result of John Key’s signing of the UN Self-Determination declaration and has brought about Three Waters, Maori Ward legislation, Tauranga’s appointed ‘Commissioners’ and various other ‘co-governance’ bodies which only segregate our once cohesive society.
Q. Are you aware that ‘Agenda 30’ is often falsely accused of being a conspiracy and features widely in misinformation circulating on social media?
A. Agenda 2030 is a sub-goal within Agenda ‘21. UK Fires (attached) relates to goals for 2030. This report was commissioned by the UK government and its suggestions will likely be adopted. These include the total elimination of cow and sheep farming, the closing of major airports and the beginning of the end for ALL shipping by 2030. Some ‘sustainable development’ documents from the UN also question the sustainability of private land ownership.
Overall, we reject any UN Agenda, developed by un-elected foreign entities, from becoming NZ law without a referendum. This is, in essence, the idea behind sovereignty.
Q. What is Sovereign’s position on Covid-19 vaccines, vaccine mandates and the New Zealand government’s wider response?
A. Sovereign does not have vaccine or mandate policies as this is beyond the scope of Local Government.
Q. Does Sovereign NZ accept man-made climate change is a reality and all levels of government must take mitigation steps?
A. We accept that man has contributed to CO2 emissions but do not believe there are only two options. The significance New Zealand has on global warming is not measurable. On the contrary, the proposals from Central Government, which include cow and sheep fart fines which could bankrupt many NZ farmers, will have a far more devastating effect on our society than global warming ever could. So the knee jerk reaction to sabotage our economy and primary industry will have no beneficial effect on climate and yield only detriment to the society that accepts it.
Q. Much of the language on your website appears to be influenced and aligned with the US sovereign citizens movement. Do you accept this?
A. I have never heard of that group. Our Sovereign name comes from the idea of Sovereign as a Nation, Sovereign as a People.
Q. Your candidates cite conspiracy theories, disinformation and or questionable research on everything from fluoridation to Covid 19. How do you respond to this?
A. We link to scientific papers showing fluoride is not without negative health consequences. My son suffered from fluorosis while drinking “safe” fluoridated water. His condition was not a conspiracy theory and I challenge anyone to prove otherwise.
Can you be specific about Covid 19 “conspiracy theories”? Did Denmark, which has one of the best health reporting systems in the world, recently block vaccinations for people under 18 because of conspiracy theories or because the vaccines had a negative risk/benefit ratio? I believe we need to stop using words like conspiracy theory so loosely and do a little research ourselves. Jacinda Arden stated that vaccine passports would “keep COVID from coming into businesses in the first place” and that vaccinated people wouldn’t get sick. How many articles were written to debunk these ‘conspiracy theories’?
Q. Why are you standing a candidate in a Maori ward when you oppose their creation?
A. We have to work with the system that was undemocratically forced upon us. Our Maori Ward candidate is of Maori descent but does not believe in segregation. The idea that these two things are mutually exclusive is irrational.
Q. Have your candidates deliberately scrubbed their public, social media and internet profiles?
A. No
Q. Joshua Riley says he is a business owner – can you please give us more detail?
A. I have owned an online education business for the last 13 years, providing continuing education to professionals. I also maintain the company’s learning management system as a software engineer.
Email of Joshua Riley to Stephen Judd of FACT Aotearoa
On 18 August Joshua Riley wrote to Judd in the wake of the hitpiece. He is yet to receive a reply.
The letter reads:
Hi Stephen,
I noticed you provided Andrea Vance a bit of commentary about Sovereign. Funny thing is you never tried to contact us to confirm your conspiracy theories about us were correct before you went so far as to say:
Most importantly, people are wound up to use violence or underhand methods to subvert our institutions, which is definitely what we’re seeing at the moment.
This insinuation was directed at our group. You are trying to plant seeds of doubt in the minds of the public about candidates standing for election whilst suggesting they are violent extremists.
That’s pretty under handed and definitely misinformation about Sovereign. I would expect more from a group that claims it upholds truth.
And yes Stephen, Three Waters is a direct result of the signing of the UN Self-determination declaration. That was the birth of nearly all the co-governance initiatives we see today. Fact check that.
At any rate, feel free explain how I’m a dangerous extremist hell-bent on destroying society. I missed that part on our website. It would be an entertaining conversation indeed.
Joshua
STUFF is full of media mercenaries and agents of the deep state funded by Jabsinda. It was worth $1 in the past and is now worth more for the Globalists being their propaganda tool in their NZ colony.
There are three candidates in palmy who are smeared by STUFF as well.
Jabcinda has imported the tyrannical methods to sustain her regime. A pathelogical liar needs them. Take any issue, you will find Jabsinda’s falsehoods and lies. For example, Jabsinda is propagandising that “Russia is involved in UNPROVOKED agression. A little research will show that the US/UK/NATO were involved in training neo-nazis and funding them for over a decade. Ethnic russians living in the Eastern part were subjucated and over 14,000 civilians were killed by the nazis. Jabsinda’s claim of “unprovoked” has zero support and yet she lies to kiwis and carrying on the orders she receive as an agent of the Globalists. Jabcinda is a curse of NZ and STUFF is the wand of the curse that spells on kiwis.
Jabcinda seems very disloyal even hiding her WEF Young Leaders trainining. How do we charge her with Treason?
I don’t think there is a candidate in the country that hasn’t been “Stuffed.”
Andrea Vance is a very dangerous woman. She is not only convinced in her own mind that there is a deep conspiracy to undermine democracy in New Zealand, but those same conspirators are opposed to all that is decent in society. She has made it her mission to root out and uncover the truth as she sees it, totally blinded to any opinion other than her own. She is showing all the symptoms of a high functioning sociopath, driven by an aspergers focus on the subject.
She is therefore to far gone to understand what makes human beings tick. She is devoid of empathy and human understanding. This is not a criticism, but an analysis. She is not alone in the Stuff camp as several of her colleagues exhibit the same or similar qualities. This is what right thinking people are up against.
The great tragedy is the damage they can cause having access to a national media platform. Andrea and her kind have little regard for the outcome of their missions in the way it affects the lives of everyday people, it never crosses their mind. The goal is all consuming to the point of destruction. They will, if necessary, collapse a nation for its own good. They are very much the perfect henchmen for a tyrannical leader, and why they have come to the fore in the last couple of years…
Well said James
Verity Johnson is a close second, and ties with Alison Mau.
Verity Johnson and Chloe Swarbrick seem to be from the same mold, flashing their massive amount of politically-correct brainwashed knowledge pretending to ‘know everything about anything’, especially when it comes to socio-political facets of society that are the ‘effect’ (remember the ‘Jacinda Effect’?) of the WEF Young leaders Zio-Communistic indoctrination of ‘Environment & Green Policies’!
All three of these women are deflecting FemiNazis, and always seem to blame the males for alllll of the world’s problems!
With the reincarnation of Elizabeth Bathory for a PM, we should all be astute, aware, and paying attention- especially with all of the secret policies that they have tried to sneak into law from both Labour and National!
Their latest failure; taxing the government-controlled KiwiSaver.
It’s a great pity then, Verity doesn’t live up to the name she was given…
Andrea Vance is the one undermining democracy in this country. Nasty piece of work she is.
********* piece of trash should go back to Ireland and see if they want her, because we sure don’t.
I read news sites from all over the world and I have to say the Stuff is far and away the biggest load of rubbish out there, congrats NZ, leading the world again.
The NZ Herald, like Stuffed Media (stuffed full of half truths, deflective storied opinions and /or outright lies!!!) is just as bad…
MSM has proven itself to be unreliable now. Keep this in mind as elections approach.
Agree. I also arm myself with news from around the world, including the Middle East and Asia. I have not seen one outlet, which compares to Stuff’s attack journalism, if it can be called journalism. They are quite frankly, unbelievable.
Apparently amongst other thing we are all idiots and need stuff to put us right I enjoyed this article and quite frankly would enjoy if our msm could produce more balanced less opinion and spin.
The smug, pseudo-intellectual arrogance with which these brainlets turn their noses up at us whacky conspiracy theorists ( “the crazies” as Newstalk ZB love to put it), even as one by one every single thing we warn of comes to pass is something I have no tolerance for anymore.
I will not be mocked by people dumb enough to get four injections for a virus they still caught in the same year, by people gullible enough to believe cow farts are changing the weather and the only way to stop it is through a new global tax Ponzi scheme, or by idiots giddy to dine on disease-carrying insects.
Stuff-off, Stuff ????
Unlikely, as they glory in their own mischievous ways. Muck raking at the level they have attained, is in their mind, the pinnacle of excellence. Go figure…
This is a very important article and something that will go on record and referred to in some future public reckoning. Well researched and written. Good journalism is so so critical to good society and Stuffs behaviour has only highlighted this sacred trust.
Part of the Sovereign.nz response to Stuff reads….
“Stuff have created the most obscene spectacle and molestation of what they call journalism by accusing anyone and everyone who doesn’t worship every edict that emanates from the Beehive as being a conspiracy theorist. “
Their summing up perfectly describes the sickness and cancer of purposed delusion that permeates this govt, the ms media and associated guard dogs.
However the flip side is that suddenly more and more NZers are confronted by the question….. “what are my values and should I stand and be counted”
Excellent summary, John. Agree totally. ????
How many conspiracy theories have I developed? Some counters would say oodles but observing well reported experimental facts is not theory nor planning to conspire to take over the world. That slot is already occupied: Mahuta and ors already want NZ returned to their pre-Treaty ownership , for some that also includes utu which their forbears escaped from.
For real conspiracy see the works of Klaus Scwab who seems to almost have shares in the UN.
Who is supressing the new energy revealed in recent the last 3 years? We won’t need gas to power homes or transport in future. Cold Fusion experimenters have found the energy without the fusion! World wide it’s been like the beginnings of the computer age with everyone swapping their experimental results. Elements appeared which were never initially present. That demanded explanation. Found it, a controlled voltage pumped through the plasma chamber caused significant changes with a masssive release of energy. The most developed to date appears to be https://brilliantlightpower.com/ Ignore the controversy about their discoveries–it may be 50 years before a coherent understanding appears. The physical facts are sufficient for the time being. Their work is well validated and the team is mature and capable. The site is a gem of presentation.
Kia ora Kevin. Agree, yes Nanaia would do well to avoid the tenants of “utu” and the best way to do that is to step away from forced co-governance. It will force the segregation of our communities and erode a great amount of good will built up through democratic governance. Our race relations in NZ are not perfect by any means but why force this division? Are they thinking of our people, of our nation> Of course not.
Thankfully no one is fooled. The underbelly of the UN agenda is control of local/regional council authorities. Let’s rip the belly of that agenda to pieces at the polls and vote those scum sucking UN affiliates out.
Surely there must be legal avenues to go down and hold stuff accountable for this blatant misrepresentation and misinformation. Take the lying ***** to court. Everything is written down it shouldn’t be hard I encourage those candidates to seek legal advice.
If we took every Stuff journalist to court who had deliberately misled the public, there would be nowhere for their lawyers to sit..
True dat ????????????
Agent Aunty Helen legalised prostitution in NZ; Agent Jabsinda legalised presstitutioin in NZ and headquartered @STUFF
I thought Three Waters was collaterla for Pfizer if Grant Robertson couldnt pay the billions he owes them??
I stopped reading MSN. Get my news from DT and RT
Agree.
The Grayzone is also very good for International news, particularly when it comes US hegemony and exposing crimes against humanity around the world.
I am on Telegram (that’s where you will see all the BS around the fake Covid exposed) and you get some really good articles from real individual journos and small independent media. Quite a few to list here.
Stop talking to the media.
They aren’t interested in giving you a fair hearing. As you’ve learned the hard way, they are going to slander you no matter how reasonable, balanced, and justified your replies. That’s why they are ‘interviewing’ you, so that they can hang you by your own words.
Don’t talk to them. Give them nothing. You have nothing to gain and a lot to lose by talking to these lying vipers.
Isn’t it sad when the MSM journos believe their own Propaganda.
This could backfire on the media, if people were anti mandate and wanted to vote for anti-mandate candidates the media has just done a very good campaign for them and raised their profile, their article is a nothing burger really.
This kind of misinformation these clown world MSM hacks write is the exact reason why there’s so much hatred and vitriol towards them. They truly are a bunch of clowns ????
Don’t forget Newscrub