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Glenn Diesen is Professor at the University of South-Eastern Norway and an editor at the Russia in Global Affairs journal.

Glenn Diesen: As propaganda about a Ukrainian ‘victory’ retreats, is a split emerging in the West?

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Germany and France want peace while the US and UK push for more war.

During the Russian Civil War, the journalist Walter Lippman observed the dilemma of propaganda – it had the positive effect of mobilizing the public for conflict, but the negative outcome of obstructing a workable peace agreement.

The British had drummed up public support for intervention in the conflict by reporting on Polish victories, fleeing communists, and the pending collapse of the Bolsheviks. In reality, the opposite was happening. Lippman argued that because the UK public had been promised victory, there was no political appetite for a reaching a diplomatic settlement.

A century later, little has changed. Public support for supplying billions of dollars’ worth of weaponry and draconian sanctions was premised on the constructed narrative of a pending Russian defeat in Ukraine. Support for Kiev has been expressed by pushing stories of victories, while any admission of weakness could be ostracized as a hostile denigration of Ukraine’s sacrifices. However, two things can be true at the same time: On one hand, Kiev’s forces were well-trained, well-equipped and fought better than anyone had expected. On the other hand, the power of the Russian military is overwhelming and superior to the extent it hasn’t even had to mobilize its army.

Reality is now catching up with the narrative. Russia has been making steady advancements and the sanctions have backfired terribly. With the situation becoming increasingly unfavorable to Ukraine and NATO, there are growing incentives for seeking a settlement with Russia. However, how can the narrative of a forthcoming victory be changed, and can the US-led bloc maintain its solidarity under a new narrative of defeat?

Fighting for whom?

NATO and Russia have been fighting proxy conflicts since the abandonment of agreements on a pan-European security architecture based on “indivisible security” in a Europe “without dividing lines.” Ukraine has become the latest victim in the subsequent struggle about where to draw the new boundaries.

NATO has presented its own role in the conflict as merely being support for Ukraine. The consensus was that the Ukrainian sacrifices and Western economic pain would be the necessary cost for victory. However, what happens when it is accepted that Russia is winning? Is it “support” for Ukraine if extending the conflict will only result in more Ukrainian casualities, loss of more territory, and the possible destruction of the Ukrainian state?

Backing for Ukraine could be expressed as NATO offering something at the negotiation table to reduce the costs for Kiev. It is conceivable that NATO could extract significant concessions from Moscow if Russia were offered what it has sought for the past three decades – security guarantees that include the end of NATO expansionism and withdrawal of American weapon systems from its borders. However, supporting Ukraine in such a manner would dent the narrative of NATO’s infallibility and being solely a “force for good.”

Who should be blamed?

The sudden shift from a victory to a defeat narrative demands that someone takes the blame for losing the war. Reminiscent of Biden blaming Afghanistan’s political leaders and its military for the situation in that country, the American leader has now begun blaming Ukraine for not heeding American warnings about the pending Russian attack. In return, Kiev is using increasingly strong language to condemn its Western partners for failing to supply enough weapons. A case in point is how the Ukrainian ambassador to Berlin even called German Chancellor Olaf Scholz a “sulky liver sausage.”

In the US there has been criticism of France for its diplomacy with Russia and accusations that Germany did not supply enough weapons, while in Europe there is now more questions about the uncompromising and confrontational stance of the US prior to Russia’s intervention.

Identifying new objectives

A new narrative also needs to reflect new objectives. Victory over Russia was a unifying objective within NATO. It was always unclear what a victory meant. For example, did it include the conquest of Crimea? Would it entail more American weapon systems even closer to a nervous and humiliated Russia, armed with nuclear weapons? Would it be in the interest of the West to have a weakened Russia with excessive reliance on China? However, strategic ambiguity about what “victory” entailed has prevented splits within the military bloc.

In defeat, the competing national interests are more difficult to contain and unity subsequently fragments. The US has certain interests in a protracted war, which could turn Ukraine into an Afghanistan for the Russians. The war has already delivered certain benefits for the US such as an energy and economic split between the EU and Russia, ensuring bloc discipline from the Western Europeans, cementing Ukraine’s position as a bulwark against Russia, and weakening Moscow.

Some are therefore arguing in favor of supplying more weapons and rejecting diplomacy. For example, US Representative Dan Crenshaw supported the opportunity of fighting Russia with Ukrainian lives: “Investing in the destruction of our adversary’s military without losing a single American troop strikes me as a good idea.” US Secretary of State Antony Blinken framed the proxy war in more benevolent terms by suggesting that the US was arming Ukraine to ensure Kiev would be in “the strongest possible position at any negotiating table that may emerge.” Chas Freeman, a former US ambassador and assistant secretary of defense, criticized this US position as a cynical “fight to the last Ukrainian.”

In contrast, the Western Europeans have more security risks from making Ukraine an Afghanistan on their continent. Furthermore, the sanctions are turning out to be more devastating to EU members than the Russians. Inflation and economic decline are ravaging Western European economies, and Russia redirecting its cheap energy and metals to Asia is a death sentence to the competitiveness of their industries. Washington’s attempts to extend this ideological conflict to China as a “supporter of Russia” will also make the Western Europeans more reliant on the US and cancel any hopes for “EU sovereignty.”

The leaders of Germany, France and Italy therefore visited Kiev to push for the start of peace negotiations with Russia. Yet, the EU leaders have rhetorically committed themselves to supporting Ukraine by supplying more weapons. While, on one hand, the promise of future EU membership is used as an incentive for a settlement, on the other hand the bloc continues to supply the weapons that enables the war to be extended. British Prime Minister Boris Johnson then made a surprise visit to Kiev, the following day, to counteract the peace initiative with the promise of continued fighting as the UK “will be with you until you ultimately prevail.”

Are new narratives emerging that reflect a split between German, French and Italian “surrender monkeys” on one side, versus the American, British and Polish “war hawks” on the other?

The statements, views and opinions expressed in this column are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of DTNZ.

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  1. The propaganda has changed from “Ukraine is winning” to “Ukraine must win”.

    The deep state is pushing for a long term conflict pouring more and more weapons and financial support disregarding the welfare of their citizens. The western main stream media is continuously pushing the false narrative completely hiding the true nature of the corrupt neo-nazi regime in Ukraine.The Donbass genocide that was going on for many years is never even discussed in the MSM. The big bulshit corporation (BBC) is just pointing out that not many Donbass residents were killed in the last 2 years hiding the fact that it was because of the resistance, and Zelensky was planning a big final attack on Donbass moving over 60,000 troups to East Ukraine months before Russia intervened. There is a clear organised media warfare launched by the NATO governments, which has succeeded in painting a Good-Evil picture in the first two months of the conflict. Sanctions backfired and yet the media is trying to push a message that this is due to the conflict hiding the fact that the West printed trillions of dollars from thin air. In short, the empire of lies continue to its absurd lies on the Ukranian conflict.

    In pushing the vaccines, more people were aware of the issue and protested. On the other hand, Ukraine issue is more complex than vaccines, and does not directly affect the Western public excluding the countries having large niumber of refugees. So it is hard for any anti-war voice to become main stream in the West.

    The end game is when Ukraine army is wiped out, and the current regime is unable to recruit and train for further fight. If Poland and other countries enter into a direct conflict, NATO can prolong the conflict further. I think, the economic situation will get worse by then, and it may not be able to pushed any further. Western leaders are just agents to the Global rich, and behave like clowns. So you never know.

  2. The question is not whether Ukraine or Russia will “win” because this is a war where everybody loses. The question is where will the ceasefire line be, and for how many years will Russia be an illegal occupying power.
    Meanwhile it is time for Russia to stop unprovoked attacks on civilians. The whole world is disgusted.

  3. The whole world outside the small western bloc of countries is disgusted with the fact the Ukraine regime, is continuing to bomb civilians in the Donbass region, and destroy homes and aparment buildings, aided by lethal weapons being sent by western countries. The west imagines their weapons are killing Russian soldiers, some of course have died in Ukraine in courageous efforts to defend ethnic Russians/Ukranians. who have criminally been attacked for 8 years by Ukraine’s regime, whether under the present Zelensky or earlier president chosen by US diplomats after the violent, illegal coup America orchestrated in 2014. The weapons being sent to Ukraine by western countries are killing civilians in the Donbass region right now – in violation of the Geneva Convention. But you wont see this reported in western mainssteam media


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